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  • gaypalmsprings
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    Originally posted by wxdude View Post

    ... GV should only allow entry if people are fully vaccinated (two weeks after 2nd dose of Pfizer/Moderna or two weeks after singe-dose J&J) and present proof.
    GV was listening, FTW!

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  • wxdude
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    How about Freebird?

  • Papichujoe
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    What's the over/under that that virus is about to play Wonderwall

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  • Papichujoe
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    It will definitely be intresting to see what and where AEG's stance on how they will handle the return to live shows in California

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  • wxdude
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    Well, this is kind of a positive and unexpected development...Variety obtained a letter authored by Live Nation CEO Michael Rapino stating that LN can require vaccination or proof of a negative COVID test for U.S. shows for all of its shows as permitted by law (I wonder if this may not apply in Florida, Texas, etc.). Also, beginning October 4, all LN employees must be vaxxed in order to enter one of its events, venues, or offices with limited exceptions as required by law. Of course, I doubt this is being done solely for altruistic reasons.

    https://variety.com/2021/music/news/...rts-1235036359

    Here's the document:

    All –

    It has been great to see events make such a strong return across the U.S., with demand for concerts and festivals continuing to outpace our expectations.

    LIVE NATION SHOWS

    We are working to ensure we are reopening in the best way possible for staff, artists, crew, fans, and communities at large. Our teams have worked together to put new processes in place so that artists doing shows with Live Nation in the U.S. can require all attendees and staff to be fully vaccinated or show a negative test result for entry, where permitted by law. We believe this is a great model, and we have already implemented this successfully at many major shows including Lollapalooza. We know people are eager to return to live events and we hope these measures encourage even more people to get vaccinated. That is the number one thing anyone can do to take care of those around them and we are encouraging as many shows as possible to adopt this model.

    EMPLOYEE VAX REQUIREMENT

    In support of this model and to continue leading by example, we will be requiring that all employees in the U.S. be vaccinated to enter one of our events, venues or offices – with limited exceptions as may be required by law. This requirement will go into effect October 4, when our offices are set to reopen their doors for flex work, and to allow on-site staff a few weeks to get vaccinated if they haven’t already. HR will share more details on this soon. As a reminder we are providing an extra paid day off for every dose so you can schedule appointments easily. We’ve seen great vaccination enthusiasm among our staff so far, and we want to ensure we’re taking every step possible to keep you all safe.

    Our business and our industry is about uniting people and vaccines are one of the greatest tools for making sure that everyone can continue to enjoy live music together. We’ve gone through a lot this past year and it’s remarkable to see how far we’ve come. If you have any questions please don’t hesitate to reach out to your HR partner. And thank you for continuing to play a role in our continued success.

    – Michael
    Will AEG and others follow suit?
    Last edited by wxdude; August 6, 2021, 11:31 AM.

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  • ocbruin84
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    More depressing than interesting for me.

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  • wxdude
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    Interesting USA Today article published today: "Lollapalooza a 'recipe for disaster,' experts warn. Should more music festivals be canceled amid COVID-19?"

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...arn/5454999001
    Tina Tan, a Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine professor, called the festival“a recipe for disaster.” She raised concerns over how well organizers enforced masks and social distancing, and she criticized Lightfoot for suggesting the event would be safe because it was largely outdoors.

    "Yeah it was an outdoor event, but it was an outdoor event with over 100,000 people (a day) in a small space," Tan said. "You're less able to transmit COVID in an outdoor space, but that doesn't mean that you can pack 100,000 people into a small, enclosed space where they're on top of each other and expect nobody's going to transmit. That's not how it works."
    Photographs taken throughout the Thursday-to-Sunday event show almost no concertgoers wearing masks.

    “It’s a good start, but especially in a crowd like that, it’s going to be almost impossible to enforce good and consistent mask-wearing,” said Robert Bednarczyk, associate professor of global health and epidemiology at Rollins School of Public Health at Emory University. “Looking at how contagious the delta variant is, my concern right now is that you may get a lot of people who end up with a mild infection.”
    If the epidemiological data from Lollapalooza shows numerous outbreaks stemming from the festival, he said, canceling future events could be justified.
    For Live Nation, it's all about the $$$. They aren't going to cancel any festivals unless they are forced by government officials. Plus they don't have to worry about that in right-to-spread-pathogen states like Texas and Florida.

    Meanwhile, speaking of Florida...in a poll of a very unscientific subsample of Rolling Loud attendees on the RL subreddit that closed three days ago, nearly 150 stated they tested positive for COVID, including several who had been vaccinated. https://www.reddit.com/r/rollingloud...a_variant_poll
    Last edited by wxdude; August 4, 2021, 05:11 PM.

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  • wxdude
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    Originally posted by Papichujoe View Post
    When will we see the Lola start come out? By this weekend?
    Yeah, we'll probably find out in about 3-7 days from now. The incubation period for the delta variant seems to be shorter than the others.

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  • Papichujoe
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    When will we see the Lola numbers start to come out? By this weekend?
    Last edited by Papichujoe; August 2, 2021, 02:15 PM.

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  • wxdude
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    So apparently the delta variant of COVID made an epic guest appearance at Rolling Loud last weekend here in South Florida. One of the performers, Dess Dior, who was interacting intensely with the crowd has tested positive. Plus there are many anecdotal reports on the RL subreddit and elsewhere of attendees who are now symptomatic and testing positive as well, including several who were vaccinated. It seems like it was quite the super-spreader event and is now responsible for some subsequent community transmission. As I previously mentioned, this happened at a festival with large crowds, no preventive measures or screenings in place, and almost nonexistent social distancing and very limited mask wearing with young age demo. And it was it was held in a state that is still chugging out over 20% of new U.S. infections. Surprised?

    A ~20 yo daughter of someone I work with went to RL with her boyfriend against his and her mother's advice. It's fortunate that she has her own place in Ft. Lauderdale now since the parents aren't letting her back into their house for at least another week and with proof of a negative COVID test!
    Last edited by wxdude; July 31, 2021, 10:01 AM.

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  • gaypalmsprings
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    Originally posted by wxdude View Post

    Geez, I hope not. That contagion would be a real Catch-22.
    I saw what you did there.

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  • wxdude
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    Originally posted by gaypalmsprings View Post
    Now onto the Lambda variant... Who knows, maybe there will be a Covid-22. Let's head on down to our neighborhood wet market.
    Geez, I hope not. That contagion would be a real Catch-22.

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  • gaypalmsprings
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    Now onto the Lambda variant... Who knows, maybe there will be a Covid-22. Let's head on down to our neighborhood wet market.

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  • wxdude
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    Originally posted by gaypalmsprings View Post
    The nation is going backwards with Covid. I hope everyone at Coachella is vaccinated - it sure would be nice if they required it.
    Absolutely agree with that! Plus GV should only allow entry if people are fully vaccinated (two weeks after 2nd dose of Pfizer/Moderna or two weeks after singe-dose J&J) and present proof. They shouldn't permit any rapid-testing-at-the-gate bullshit or submission of test results beforehand as a substitute.

    We'll see how viable musical festivals with traditionally large crowds will be over the next couple of weeks in the U.S. with Rolling Loud, taking place here in Miami now, and Lollapalooza in Chicago. Both attract a large number of teens, which is an age demographic that is really lagging in vaccination rates. The organizers of Rolling Loud though, unlike Lolla, appear to have no COVID mitigation measures in place on the grounds of Hard Rock Stadium. And this is in Florida, in which the number of positive COVID cases has gone up 61% just in the past week and is 7x greater than on June 1! Despite Miami-Dade County having 60% of its residents fully vaccinated and 76% getting one dose (well exceeding the national average and much above the state mean), it is accounting for 15% of the state's new cases and is still regarded as a hot spot. There are people from other parts of the country in attendance as well. From the accounts I read, the festival grounds are jammed pack and extremely overcrowded with absolutely no social distancing and little mask wearing. The county has set up a vaccination tent on the grounds, which is all well and good, but little will that do to alleviate the current situation. This local TV report bears it out...and this is only after the first day: https://www.local10.com/news/local/2...-road-closures.

    Edit: The Washington Post coincidentally just published a timely article just on the subject of potential COVID spread at these two festivals: https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...estivals-covid.
    Last edited by wxdude; July 24, 2021, 09:17 PM.

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